In this episode, Dr. Heidi interviews Gabe Zicherman about tech life balance and moving away from gamification.

Gabe Zichermann, Author & CEO of Onward – an anti tech addiction startup. Gabe is a serial entrepreneur, author and speaker with a family history of addiction and a decade of experience building systems for behavior change. His vision is to foster a world where balanced relationships between “real life” and technology make everyone healthier, happier and more truly connected.

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